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Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
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Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
Hi there, it's me, your friendly butterfly moderator, Winnie.
A while back there was a Female Armors topic, and I decided, even after the lock, to send AE a letter about it anyways. Here's the letter and the response:
Hi Artix,
There was a topic on a forum a while ago about female armors, and how revealing they are. It made me wonder if you could tone it down a bit? All the good armors are really revealing. It doesn't help that this game is played by mainly boys. You can't log on and stand around BattleOn without getting a PM or two saying "Nice Pixels. You single?"
You can see the problem.
There aren't any good looking armors that don't show skin. Shadowslayer X was just the tip off, which started a mini 'riot' on twitter.
A girl in my clan, Crystal, made a very good point. You are usually set apart from other games in people's minds becuase of how it is. I think that if you want a game that has revealing armors, you can go play Perfect World, Ragnarok, and Wonderland Online. You can do better than that, I know you can. That's one reason I love your games- The sound effects are campy, and they make me laugh. The armors in DF, MQ, and AQ aren't revealing, the releases are always great, and the plot is interesting.
The armors are getting worse, the releases are getting less... AE-like, and the plot hasn't gone anywhere... When are we going to fight the Twins, anyways?
That's a rant for another day.
Here are a few Quotes from the topic I mentioned earlier:
"Last I checked, DF armors weren't always revealing. And ah non, if revealing clothes suit a woman, by all means, go ahead, wear them! Doesn't mean that a game has to resort to only revealing clothes for women, because not everyone wants to wear leotards and slitted skirts to battle, even if it's fiction."
"I'm talking the female hero player. Usually, in other AE games, it's not implied that the player is a Helen of Troy, hence the fewer revealing clothes she has to wear. Suddenly, in AQW, she must wear leotards and slitted skirts almost all the time, while the game still doesn't fix her in the role as a seductress, but that of a fighter/mage/whatever class she is. The player doesn't have any actual option to pick a love interest in the game, that sort of situation is only created through fanfiction of said AE games."
"Take, as an example, Warrior and Warlord. Heavily armored, random section of skin showing the thighs. Necessary? I think not."
My point is, that a lot of girls are on their wits end, (And some boys) and I know that you'll do somthing about it.
For Me? Crystal? Juliana? Kay? I know that, given the chance, at least 90% of the female AQW population would want this too.
Thanks for you're time, I know you'll do somthing.
-Winnie, Crystal, Sticky, and the others from the 'Female Armors' topic.
I recieved two replies, one from Artix and one from Cysero.
Winnie,
I will take action on this for you immediately.
Can you clarify one thing for me... what did you mean when you said the releases are getting less... AE-like?
Battle on!
Adam (Artix)
Here's Cysero's:
Hey Winnie,
Artix read your letter then sent it to me to read. You know as well as we do that the sexy armors question has caused a lot of problems lately. You're right that we do set ourselves apart from those other games that you mentioned, but unfortunately those games generally do a lot better than out lil mom and pop games do. As the head of AQW I find myself caught between a Victoria's Secret and a hard place. On the one hand sexy female armors DO really appeal to the greater part of our fan base and when we use thoe armors to advertie we notice a surge in new players which keeps tha game going and growing.... on the other hand I'm a femenist and hate catering to the current paradigm. Trying to use whatever meager media influence I have to shape your generation into one where the genders are really honestly equal is hard business.
The funny thing is we've been dressing up doughy gamer boys as studly beefcakes since day one and none of them complain. *shurg* equality is in how you view it.
However! Just spoke to Miltonius (who is in charge of the direction of the art style in the game and also the artist who makes nearly all of the armors and NPCs), and we've decided that the next 12 (at least) armors are going to be nicely and completely armored, (no exposed strip of thigh, slit skirts, stripper boots, low cut tops ETC) at LEAST as much as the males, but still awesome looking. He has no problem and says "I think there are plenty of sexy armors in the game already, i'm happy to give them new options."
That starts THIS Friday with Quibble's new armors. Hope this puts your mind at ease.
-Cysero
(Insert job title of your choice here)
www.DragonFable.com
www.AQ.com
Artix Entertainment LLC.
It's good to know someone out there cares. We made a difference.
A while back there was a Female Armors topic, and I decided, even after the lock, to send AE a letter about it anyways. Here's the letter and the response:
Hi Artix,
There was a topic on a forum a while ago about female armors, and how revealing they are. It made me wonder if you could tone it down a bit? All the good armors are really revealing. It doesn't help that this game is played by mainly boys. You can't log on and stand around BattleOn without getting a PM or two saying "Nice Pixels. You single?"
You can see the problem.
There aren't any good looking armors that don't show skin. Shadowslayer X was just the tip off, which started a mini 'riot' on twitter.
A girl in my clan, Crystal, made a very good point. You are usually set apart from other games in people's minds becuase of how it is. I think that if you want a game that has revealing armors, you can go play Perfect World, Ragnarok, and Wonderland Online. You can do better than that, I know you can. That's one reason I love your games- The sound effects are campy, and they make me laugh. The armors in DF, MQ, and AQ aren't revealing, the releases are always great, and the plot is interesting.
The armors are getting worse, the releases are getting less... AE-like, and the plot hasn't gone anywhere... When are we going to fight the Twins, anyways?
That's a rant for another day.
Here are a few Quotes from the topic I mentioned earlier:
"Last I checked, DF armors weren't always revealing. And ah non, if revealing clothes suit a woman, by all means, go ahead, wear them! Doesn't mean that a game has to resort to only revealing clothes for women, because not everyone wants to wear leotards and slitted skirts to battle, even if it's fiction."
"I'm talking the female hero player. Usually, in other AE games, it's not implied that the player is a Helen of Troy, hence the fewer revealing clothes she has to wear. Suddenly, in AQW, she must wear leotards and slitted skirts almost all the time, while the game still doesn't fix her in the role as a seductress, but that of a fighter/mage/whatever class she is. The player doesn't have any actual option to pick a love interest in the game, that sort of situation is only created through fanfiction of said AE games."
"Take, as an example, Warrior and Warlord. Heavily armored, random section of skin showing the thighs. Necessary? I think not."
My point is, that a lot of girls are on their wits end, (And some boys) and I know that you'll do somthing about it.
For Me? Crystal? Juliana? Kay? I know that, given the chance, at least 90% of the female AQW population would want this too.
Thanks for you're time, I know you'll do somthing.
-Winnie, Crystal, Sticky, and the others from the 'Female Armors' topic.
I recieved two replies, one from Artix and one from Cysero.
Winnie,
I will take action on this for you immediately.
Can you clarify one thing for me... what did you mean when you said the releases are getting less... AE-like?
Battle on!
Adam (Artix)
Here's Cysero's:
Hey Winnie,
Artix read your letter then sent it to me to read. You know as well as we do that the sexy armors question has caused a lot of problems lately. You're right that we do set ourselves apart from those other games that you mentioned, but unfortunately those games generally do a lot better than out lil mom and pop games do. As the head of AQW I find myself caught between a Victoria's Secret and a hard place. On the one hand sexy female armors DO really appeal to the greater part of our fan base and when we use thoe armors to advertie we notice a surge in new players which keeps tha game going and growing.... on the other hand I'm a femenist and hate catering to the current paradigm. Trying to use whatever meager media influence I have to shape your generation into one where the genders are really honestly equal is hard business.
The funny thing is we've been dressing up doughy gamer boys as studly beefcakes since day one and none of them complain. *shurg* equality is in how you view it.
However! Just spoke to Miltonius (who is in charge of the direction of the art style in the game and also the artist who makes nearly all of the armors and NPCs), and we've decided that the next 12 (at least) armors are going to be nicely and completely armored, (no exposed strip of thigh, slit skirts, stripper boots, low cut tops ETC) at LEAST as much as the males, but still awesome looking. He has no problem and says "I think there are plenty of sexy armors in the game already, i'm happy to give them new options."
That starts THIS Friday with Quibble's new armors. Hope this puts your mind at ease.
-Cysero
(Insert job title of your choice here)
www.DragonFable.com
www.AQ.com
Artix Entertainment LLC.
It's good to know someone out there cares. We made a difference.
Re: Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
That's awesome, proves they listen and it also proves that Quibble will have awesome armours this time round! lol :P
Wixmagic- KuKuKuKuKu
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Re: Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
NICE Glad you actually got replies(and they listened...), and they arent automated responses either! Congratz
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Re: Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
*raises hand*Cysero wrote:
The funny thing is we've been dressing up doughy gamer boys as studly beefcakes since day one and none of them complain.
I DO
Re: Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
Weird, I thought Milt was going to stick to his guns and refuse to draw less revealing armors. But I'm glad we made some difference. I just know that AE is capable to making AQW less of a mini Ragnarok Online and more of their AE-brand of humor. Just give them time.
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Thank you Winnie! I'm glad to see that AE listens to their players and respects opinions.
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Mhmm If it does..
*Shivers to the highest calibur*
*Shivers to the highest calibur*
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Re: Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
Its nice and all that they are planning on changing their motives, but you could have put a little bit of each side on there :/ The best way to examine an argument is to view a bit of each side for relative points. Meh, I just want this to all blow over now anyways, so if these new armors can satisfy everyone, happiness will have been achieved. Oh, and the Yoshi will go hyper with the happy flower. (Yoshi's Story Reference) Basically, what I mean to say, is that I hope the new female armors can be less revealing and cool, since thats what they are aiming for. Good Luck Milt!
P.S. Winnie, remind him of when you rickrolled him again. XD
P.S. Winnie, remind him of when you rickrolled him again. XD
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Re: Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
Now you mention it, I hope the non-revealing armors have art of good quality.
Re: Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
Or milton can go emo and make it crappy quality. o.O
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Re: Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
Lets hope... That AE doesn't get carried away... With their decision...
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Re: Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
Don't say that! D: They won't......hopefully...
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No i dont think the will alot of the team are very sensible
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Winnie is now my favorite person in the whole world... of the week.
Yay for Winnie!!!
Yay for Winnie!!!
Re: Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
So this is the end of the blurscue armor? o_o Theres not going to be anymore?
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Re: Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
The end? Probably not, but the AQW team will probably rethink how they develop looks in the future.
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Well, maybe what will happen is that there'll be a streak of non-burlesque armors, then AQW will go back to its compulsory revealing armors again. But then again, I'm a pessimist and highly doubt Milt can change his spots!
Re: Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
But then everyone will be happy, and we should leave it at that. You will have gotten your armors, and we will still have our normal AQW. So it should be fine.
Re: Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
I see... (starts swearing like a madman)
Note: As a Halo player, I am forced to complain about the removla of things in game, regardless of how long its for, even if I disliked it or never used it, I am still forced to complain about it!
(Continues swearing)
Note: As a Halo player, I am forced to complain about the removla of things in game, regardless of how long its for, even if I disliked it or never used it, I am still forced to complain about it!
(Continues swearing)
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Re: Girl Armors (Not A discussion!)
/Facepalm as well.
Guys, I doubt AQW will stop having revealing armors, as you said before, they need them to bring in business, but at least those of us who choose to won't need to wear them.
Guys, I doubt AQW will stop having revealing armors, as you said before, they need them to bring in business, but at least those of us who choose to won't need to wear them.
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