Re: Female Armors

by Peregrine Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:58 am

I don't even understand how that became a stereotype in the first place.

I mean, come on people.

by **Shadow** Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:05 am

Charon wrote:Let's just all be glad we haven't seen anything worse.

Unfortunately, I have seen worse... Akumi. *shudder*

by Crystal Lion Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:11 am

Brrr, so, did you think the molested security guard looked like Mowgli's female double?

by **Shadow** Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:14 am

I didn't see it at first, but now that I think if it, she does look a lot like Mowgli.

by Crystal Lion Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:25 am

Well, Milt's fond of genderbending Disney characters or making doubles out of them. Noticed that Gravelyn's practically a cutesy version of Jessica Rabbit?

by Evangel Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:27 am

Back on topic, please.

Beat me to it. xD
-Shadow

/stern I'm on always top of things.
~E

by wwwtoy Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:19 am

Charon wrote:
Crystal Lion wrote:The reason why AQW armor is almost always burlesque is because Miltonius is not skilled enough to draw less revealing clothes, and doesn't want to learn how to; since burlesque rakes in the fans!

AE should hire someone else with skill and a lower tendency to force players into burlesque, otherwise, AQW will become another cliche online game with forced revealing clothes, like Perfect World and Ragnarok.

Actually, it has nothing to do with Miltons skill. He is an extremely talented artist who, sadly, has a tendency towards drawing revealing women. While I don't really agree with the way he does his armors... Let's just all be glad we haven't seen anything worse.

If thats good I dont want to see wors. O_O *Shudders*

by incinerator1 Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:51 am

At least the other armors/classes weren't like the Holiday Jester 08 for females xD. *before it was updated*

by **Altera** Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:15 am

It's all a matter of taste. Okay so there is a fair bit of skin shown considering it is primarily aimed at children. But it is rated for Everyone over the age of 10, there's no real upper limit on how old you have to be so there are players in their 20s(like me) and possibly 30s. There is a balance that AE has to maintain, draw in new players, keep the old ones happy, and appeal to as many demographics as they can.

Look at some of the heroines of various comics, tv shows etc. Princess Leia kicked butt in a metal bikini, Wonder Woman fights crime in a strapless leotard/battle armour, and yet there is no complaint about them being too revealing even though WW stars in a show aimed at kids alongside other heroines like Black Canary, Power Girl and Zatanna who wear revealing costumes as well. Instead, they are models of female empowerment. But I digress.

On a personal note, I do like some of the female armors like Paladin and Forest Faerie and I wouldn't say no to a few more revealing male armours. What's good for goose is good for gander and all that jazz.

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:20 am

keep the old ones happy

...So AE needs to put emphasis on sexuality to keep people playing...? A bit odd.

by wwwtoy Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:25 am

Sticky wrote:
keep the old ones happy

...So AE needs to put emphasis on sexuality to keep people playing...? A bit odd.

From what hess saying apprently so.

by **Altera** Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:47 am

I probably should have made my previous comment a bit clearer.

New players are acquired through eye catching advertisements, often with female NPCs, as does almost every other MMORPG. Outfits are designed with wide appeal and those in business know that sex sells so attractive females in low cut/skimpy outfits will bring in the punters. Would you buy something advertised by a supermodel or a dirty hobo?

Players are then maintained by offering new items to customise their character look, through quests to farm for gold or the items that drop from various monsters, buying upgrades and ACs. They create outfits which they believe the majority of players would like and go from there. And in many cases after a new outfit has been released, you'll see a lot of players wearing it in the following days or weeks until the new cool one comes out.

With demographic appeal, the one that seems to scream out at first is teenage males, but why have pretty armours unless girls are gonna play? Why bother creating female-only outfits?

Looking at the wiki, approximately half the armours fully cover the female/are exactly like the male counterpart with a couple more with either low cut tops OR thighs showing but not both, so there are plenty of "non-burlesque" options to choose from.

by Evangel Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:02 am

Altera wrote:Would you buy something advertised by a supermodel or a dirty hobo?

Depends on what they are advertising.

by Xusha Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:19 am

Being a female that plays, I'd say that there is really nothing wrong with what you are all calling revealing. Standards have really changed since 1970. All the American media is talking about are sex scandals and people using racial terms. I'll tell you that this is a very light form of burlesque. Remember, the hero is not a 10 year old! The kids are supposed to be playing as a fairly older character, and forgive me if I saw women usually grow breasts and don't always wear trench coats. If anything, the buffed out male characters are sexist, as no female armor shows any definition of muscle, and makes every woman seem petite and fragile.

by wwwtoy Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:29 am

Altera wrote: Would you buy something advertised by a supermodel or a dirty hobo?
.

Dirty hobos FTW Thats just off topic. But its true. D:<

by Nagi Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:30 am

Xusha wrote:If anything, the buffed out male characters are sexist, as no female armor shows any definition of muscle, and makes every woman seem petite and fragile.

You have a good point there I don't think there are very many/any at all female armors that show muscle.

by wwwtoy Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:40 am

Shadow shinobi from gravelyn is.

by Janus Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:26 pm

Peregrine wrote:A friend of mine found a porn flash done by our very own Miltonius whilst browsing yonder Internets.

So yeah. I'mma agree in full with Crystal.

Anyway. Fact of the matter is every cheap WoW imitation of a game needs some fan service so that people don't just play WoW instead, and as everyone knows, females are the first to be used as fan service. It's because that's how society rolls.

That one's nasty, I've seen it myself and it's just not okay to do such videos when you're a designer of a game that's for kids.
Too much skin obviously..

by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:27 pm

You people are trashing the wrong game, most online games end up with female charswearing revealing armour, WHO CARES!
Personally I think most guys dont even give a crap about it, its just the way the armours are drawn, stop making problems where there are none!
If you really want to trash a game for this sort of thing trash City Of Villans, all the female players there are stuck wearing BDSM bondage outfits.

by SS Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:05 pm

Peregrine wrote:A friend of mine found a porn flash done by our very own Miltonius whilst browsing yonder Internets.

I think I'm going to throw up.

Now back to the topic, I reckon Miltonius draws armors like this because of these three reasons:

1) He's a pervert who no longer has my respect.
2) Nobody has sent a complaint to him yet, which may be why he gets away with it.
3) AE might not care about the way some armors are drawn because it draws in players.

by Zeo Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:05 pm

All in all, MORPG's are always gonna be like this. When people say armours are to naked to 10+, you gotta remember WoW is 13+ and has pole dancing (according to some videos i found on YT :S).

Then again, "A friend of mine found a porn flash done by our very own Miltonius whilst browsing yonder Internets." Srsly? If thats true, then.......omg.

by Wixmagic Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:12 pm

Look I'm sorry if I'm wrong but I think at least half of this topic so far is people complaining about Miltonius, news flash: HE DOES NOT MAKE ALL THE ARMOURS, Stop giving him such a hard time! He also isn't the boss it is his job and he does it well, I mean if you wanted a thread to hate Miltonius go and make an "I hate Miltonius" thread. I'm sorry but you people are really getting on my nerves.

by 5secondchaos Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:54 pm

I think most of the skin showing on female armors are un-needed to say the least.

by Serena Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:10 pm

I don't personally mind it too much.. Except when they try to mix bulky and skimpy armours into one thing... A perfect example is the Maximilian armour. Low-cut, high boots, large pauldrons, general bulky design... That stuff just doesn't mix too well to me. And one last note... What's up with that like... loin-cloth-belt thing that they seem to enjoy putting on most female armours..?

by **Erik** Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:06 am

Why do they put something over the female armor legs, there's a netting or something there. Its on dragonlord, and some others too.

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